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GBB Over/Under: Jordan Adams, Kevin Love Stuff, Gasbags, and a Bad Time to Stop Sniffing Glue

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This is your weekly look at what is over/under-rated in Grizz world, the NBA, and the universe in general.

Grizz O/U

Under-rated

95-On GBB this week, there were two good fan posts about 2014 first round draft pickJordan Adams written by Grace Baker and Jonah Jordan. Both articles focus on the ways Adams can be used in the Grizzlies system to increase offense, especially help with offensive possession and efficiency. Jonah Jordan even compares Adams to Manu Ginobli, which is an exciting thought. Here are some things I do know: he set the single season record for steals last year with ninety-five. He is forty-second overall all in scoring at UCLA, which is not bad for two years. He was also the second fastest player to reach 1000 points in UCLA history. These records mean something, since UCLA is a storied program that knows a thing or two about winning.

However, the first time I see Adams play with the Grizz will be the first time I have seen Adams play. When Adams was drafted, I had a similar reaction to this pick that most Grizz fans had: a mixture of confusion (Who?), longing (They have got to be trading him, right?), and petty annoyance (no Rodney HoodP.J. HairstonShabazz Napier??). However, this pick reeks of John Hollinger's hands all over it, taking an non-athletic player with good efficiency numbers, and in him I trust. I believe with this draft pick this will set the tone for future drafts with this front office group going forward.

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Over-rated

10.8- Additionally, Mark Deeks reported that in Jordan Adams contract he just signed with the Grizz contains a clause that aligns bonus money with his body fat percentage. This seems to be a first of sorts for a rookie contract, with the only example being former New Jersey Nets and Memphis Grizzlies guard Marcus Williams. Upon first hearing this story, this brought back memories of not wanting to pay rookies their full value, like in the case of Xavier Henry and Greivis Vasquez back in 2010. But here's the skinny (get it?). Adams had the third highest body fat percentage of the players in the draft last season at 10.8 percent, trailing behind Nik Stauskas (12.1) and Kyle Anderson (13.4). Additionally, Adams lost twenty one pounds to get to his combine weight of 209 pounds. Plus... MEMPHIS ONLY HAS LIKE THE BEST FOOD IN THE ENTIRE FREAKING WORLD.

(thinks of Gus's Fried Chicken...sighs...wipes drool off the corner of mouth....takes a deep breath)

However, I do think this is a little overblown The guys in the NBA are professional athletes who play basketball all the time and can afford to have personal trainers, nutrition consultants and such. Plus, because the rookie scale is so low, it is a constant motivation for rookies to keep working and grinding for the next contract, when the money is good. So after that second paycheck, go on and get fat.

NBA O/U

Under-rated

The haul Minnesota got for Kevin Love. Of course, nothing is official and the trade can not be completed until August 23. However, this was the best of all situations for Minnesota. They made a mistake and did not give K-Love the extra year, which would have put him in the most lucrative class of free agents in a while for 2016. They have made some questionable salary decisions that have cost them the time they did have with Kevin Love (10 million dollars for Kevin Martin?). They swapped coaches with Houston, who sucked at the time, and both teams continued to underachieve, Minnesota more so than Houston.

But getting Wiggins, Bennett, and a first rounder next season is falling up in this author's opinion. Even if Bennett gets traded to Philadelphia for Thaddeous Young, the grouping of two number one over all picks is unprecedented in NBA history. Wiggins becomes the sixth player in NBA history to be taken number one overall and not playing for the team that drafted them:

  • Clifton McNeely- drafted in 1947 by the Pittsburgh Ironmen. McNeely did not want to play basketball, and became a basketball coach instead.
  • Chuck Share- drafted in 1950 by the Boston Celtics and traded to the Fort WaynePistons for Bill Sharman, a second round pick from a dispersal draft in 1950.
  • Gene Melchiorre- drafted in 1951 by the Baltimore Bullets, but was banned for lifefor taking part in a point shaving scandal in college.
  • David Thompson- drafted first overall in 1975 by the Atlanta Hawks, but chose to join the ABA's Virginia Squires, who then traded his rights to the Denver Nuggets(also an ABA team).
  • Chris Webber- drafted in 1993 by the Orlando Magic and traded to the Golden State Warriors for Penny Hardaway, third pick overall in that draft, and three future first round picks (Todd Fuller in 1996, Vince Carter in 1998, and Chris Mihmin 2000).

That is rarefied company. What is even rarer is finding a trade involving two number one overall picks. In NBA history, no team has ever traded for two top picks. As a matter of fact, I could only find a few trades that involved two first overall picks.

  • In 1980, Bob Lanier, top pick in 1970 by the Detroit Pistons, was traded to theMilwaukee Bucks for Kent Benson, top pick in 1977.
  • In 1987, Joe Barry Carroll, number one in 1980, and Sleepy Floyd, both of the Golden State Warriors, were traded to the Houston Rockets for Ralph Sampson, number one in 1983 draft, and Steve Fuller.
  • In 2006, Allen Iverson, number one in 1996 by the Philadelphia 76ers, was traded to the Denver Nuggets for Joe Smith, number one pick in 1995 by the Golden State Warriors, and Andre Miller.

That's it....that's the list.

Over-Rated

The Original Kevin Love Trade- Memphis is a trend setter. We were trading Kevin Love before it was cool. But with all this Kevin Love news around it was a good time to reflect on the three or four hours Kevin Love was a Memphis Grizzly. Joe Mullinax did a fantastic job revisiting the trade here, hypothesizing that Love's presence may have put the Grizzlies in the NBA Finals in 2013 (I agree with him in this article 100% that Love replacing Randolph is both good and bad...but would make this team most assuredly better). Managing editor Chris Faulkner revisited a post from a year ago, completely reworking the history of the Grizzlies since the 2008 draft. I want to take a bit of a different angle. Knowing what we know today, what would a re-draft of 2008 look like? Here is my top five:

  1. Chicago BullsDerrick Rose. I have trouble here, because of the nature of the argument of Derrick Rose. I feel like if the Bulls could do it all again, they would draft Rose even with all the injuries over the last two seasons. Without the injuries, he is the surest thing in a draft of surest things
  2. Miami HeatKevin Love. Remember, this was a team coming off an NBA title two years ago, missing a post presence in Shaquille O' Neal. They took B-Easy because of his size and his scoring prowess, Love now fits both of those criteria, and maybe Lebron gets to play with Love a few years earlier
  3. Minnesota TimberwolvesRussell Westbrook. At least they don't have to pass over two point guards next summer.
  4. Seattle Supersonics- Serge Ibaka. Post presence and rebounding to go alongside KD. Wait till next year to pick up a point guard.
  5. Memphis Grizzlies- Eric Gordon. Memphis needed a two guard who could score at the time, and that requirement could be met with Gordon

Agree or disagree?? See the poll at the bottom.

SO were we any better off. Ok...so we got nothing in the Kevin Love deal other than OJ Mayo and OJ walked for nothing. Gordon has been a bit of a malcontent (but who wouldn't be being a Clipper). Gordon was also the feature piece in the fraudulent Chris Paul trade out of New Orleans. I am not sure if the Grizz hold on to Gordon either, but he could have been used in a trade of some sorts I think. Just thinking about the old days of the franchise sometimes makes me depressed.

I remember watching the draft back in 2008 and feeling very upbeat about the Kevin Love selection. I was also a fan of the trade, because I though Mayo was under-rated, even at pick # 3. Looking back makes me wonder though if this Grizzlies team would have been going through the same thing with Kevin Love. When Lebron knocks, you answer. But then again, this might be a short rebuild with some outstanding young talent. Did you know no player has ever been traded for two number one picks before??? You heard that one already???

Life, The Universe, and Everything Else O/U

Under-rated

Dan Lebatard being suspended by ESPN- I love his show on ESPN, Highly Questionable, mostly because I am a big fan of Bomani Jones and who doesn't love Papi. I also have started listening to the podcast of his show from Miami since the whole Lebron free agency thing this summer. On his show on Wednesday, he announced that he had paid for six bilborads in Akron, Ohio that read:

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Funny. Love the Comic Sans.

Since then, he has been suspended by ESPN for these actions. Generally, I think that people involved at ESPN are humorless and looooooove suspending people. I know the guys here at GBB are not humorless, but since I have just started to write here occasionally, I wanted to clear up what can and can't be put on a billboard without being suspended. How about:

  • A picture of two rings and the caption: "You're welcome, Pau. Love Memphis"
  • A picture of a bronze medal from the 2014 FIBA World Championships with the caption: "Thanks Rudy, Love Memphis."
  • A picture of Marc Gasol with a gold medal in the FIBA World Championships with the caption: "Thanks KD, Love Spain"
  • A picture of two full sized steak and cheese sandwiches with the caption: "Thanks OJ, Love Memphis"
  • A picture of ZBo punching Lou Admundson with the caption: "Steven Adams, I'm gonna git you sucka."
  • I'm just asking...for a friend. Actually...I may do the last one myself.

    Over-rated

    Writing a weekly column when there are no games- Write for a blog they said. It will be fun they said.

    I just wrote like 1500 words on a chubby shooting guard and a trade that happened six years ago. Apparently this was the wrong time to stop sniffing glue.